Fear as Darkness Seeps the Steps of History Creak

 

As with Life a work in progress:

Foundation Text=Ethics=Ideas=Motivation=Actions For and Against Other.

Cognizant human beings are formed and deformed by Foundation text. Change the Foundation Text or Change Nothing.

"Decision theorists and cognitive scientists have recorded instances where individuals refuse to change their mental models even in the face of irrefutable evidence, because of the institutional support their unsatisfactory mental models get from peers and society at large."

Imperatives

 

Religious Trauma Syndrome: An Overview of Dr. Marlene Winell’s Article in the British Association for Behavioural & Cognitive Psychotherapies December 3, 2011 By Mriana

The Simple Answer to Ending the Terror - Plato Knew it years Ago Why have we not Understood? 

 

“Why us?” he cried amongst the carnage.

 

FRIDAY, JANUARY 20, 2012

Very brave Indonesian/Earth Man drowning in a sea of Idiots.

 

‘God Does Not Exist’ Comment Ends Badly for Indonesia Man Camelia Pasandaran January 19, 2012

No Need to Believe: Indonesia's Atheists Marcel Thee January 18, 2012

Very brave Man drowning in a sea of Idiots.

OK I will – I will 'Prove God Does Not Exist' – not hard at all.

Then you will let him live?

002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error:

Yes Truth does so let him go in peace this is his faith his religion. Islam  a religion of Peace or Certainty?

OK I will – I will 'Prove God Does Not Exist' – not hard at all.


Extract:
“My proof is the notion God is a textual construct only, which has no evidence other Mans assertion it is true - i.e. that the existence of God merely by Man saying it is true through tawdry Revelations from Man himself is not proof of the existence of God. That is my assertion based on the following logic.

It is rather ridiculous to ask me to prove another Mans assertion that a bucket is in a corner where clearly it is not visible and only exists as a revelation in a Mans mind which Man writes down in text as proof it does. And further Man himself ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXFsPjKrTQ 

Religious Trauma Syndrome: An Overview of Dr. Marlene Winell’s Article in the British Association for Behavioural & Cognitive Psychotherapies December 3, 2011 By Mriana

The Simple Answer to Ending the Terror - Plato Knew it years Ago Why have we not Understood? 

 

 

May I be so bold as to demand this very brave Indonesian/Earth Man (Alexander) drowning in a sea of Idiots be thrown a lifeline?

 

Please contact the following to inform them you believe Truth should not be subverted to ignorance and violent superstition. And the very brave Indonesian/Earth Man (Alexander) must be set free immediately and provided with the level of security and employment required to enable Alexander to continue his good work.

 

Regional Development Planning Board Provincial Government of DKI Jakarta

Email: kontak@bapedadki.net 

Attention: Sarwo Handhayani

The Captains Directly Responsible for the Oh So Rickety Religion of Certainty leaking Boat. As so many they have allowed to leave their shores with the help of their Military or is that the Badan Intelijen Negara? Let us hope they do not all fortuitously trip over into the life raft and leave this intelligent man Alexander to his ignominious fate.

 

 

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FRIDAY, JANUARY 13, 2012

OUR ONE PLUS ONE INTERVIEWEE IS AN EXPERT ON ENABLING 'PERMANENT TERROR

One Plus One - David Kilcullen the only success is failure

At what point would you have intervened to stop Hitler, Japan, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Vlad III, Hutu, Gaddafi,.... - Not Humanities problem, not my problem - a local issue - best left to locals - ignores what? - could it be a severe imbalance of power of one interest group over an other?

What do you say to the Jew in the Death camp and the Russian in the Gulag who both looked to the horizon and stated they did not care if they died in the process but where was the rest of Humanity surely it was obvious they were deserving of at least the attempt of saving from tyranny?

The Arab Spring has really resulted and is resulting in what change more a winter than spring as the Religions of Certainty move to impose even harder chains. The fact is also what your argument precludes are the underlying dogmas from western philosophy as to the status of a citizen was the driving force for change - the stark relative difference in regards independence of a citizen and the accountability of its rulers and the systems they manage. I did not hear initially on the streets - 'More Religious Control, Greater Diminished women Rights, ...

Nobel Laureate Drops Bid for Presidency of Egypt NYT By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK Published: January 14, 2012
Muslim Brotherhood picks new parliament speaker From Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, For CNN January 17, 2012

Arab winter more like it.

Your job is to find excuses - what the Noble Laureate is saying is nothing new - the point is what happens afterwards with a local solution based on the same foundation text. What happens when the bloodied victims are mollified with 'We have heard'  and different names and even the same names with exactly the same Foundation text against Other drives the outcome of the 'revolution'. Yes you may have saved money and even lives in the short term but the trouble is it will have to happen all over again.

Non-intervention the best policy - You fail to point out in the case of Libya the so called spring where we now have x  Al-Qaeda  operatives actually in control of the Libyan military could clearly not have occurred unless France came over the horizon - which if you did not notice was an external military intervention. 
 

What you also fail to mention regards Iraq is the blatant intervention of an external State(s) whose absence from the field clearly in both Iraq and Afghanistan would have enabled a significantly improved environment for the development of Democratic institutions - what pray tell is the underlying foundation text driving this terror internal and external?

You can draw a circle on the sand and say there you are - localized - but that clearly does not stop the tide - the reality - external forces - be they military, terror, economic, philosophical or otherwise - in a real world - are the major determinants in the final outcome - because borders are nothing more than a line in the sand not impermeable.

You have created a simplistic convenience store of conscience salving products to enable looking the Otherway or not looking at all - nothing more - as the moderates and terrorists themselves have which enables them to carry out low and high level atrocities against humanity-  if you care to look in their own convenience store of foundation text.

David Kilcullen the only success is failure - and you get paid for it - trouble is not taking out the root means what - yes a 100% chance of continuing Muslim terror attacks.

The 'success' of your strategy is to suppress high profile attacks and present this as victory whilst the critical mass to enable the continuance of 'permanent terror' is reached and enhanced - Thanks for your valuable expertise - Al-Qaeda was never the problem, just one of the many symptoms, its the Foundation text which created Al-Qaeda and creates each new generation of Muslim terrorists, moderate or extremist, under whatever name they choose or is chosen for them.

To infer the diminishing following of  Al-Qaeda indicates success given increasing Muslim terrorism around the world even by States is self-serving to say the least and wrong.

AL-QAEDA OVERRUNS TOWN NEAR YEMEN CAPITAL AFP January 17, 2012, 6:10 am mmmm

David Kilcullen - Success in Iraq - what a joke - tactics yes but the overall strategy has failed - all that was provided was a smokescreen for withdrawal and failure.

The only thing we agree on is there is a 100% chance of a Muslim terror attack but not only in the so called West  - even dare I say in Indonesia.

To say the assistance to Indonesia to combat terror in terms of the international community seeking to improve their intelligence, police, and justice services, whilst at the same time providing actual educational support for the very same dogma which is the actual cause of the Islamic terror in the first place has been successful - beggars belief . The UN 2011 Human Rights report ring any bells - duffer.

Jakarta Globe: Just a few days news-
God Does Not Exist’ Comment Ends Badly for Indonesia Man Camelia Pasandaran January 19, 2012
Madura Shiites Report More Threats Since Going Home Anita Rachman January 18, 2012
Shiites Still Under Threat in E. Java: Lawyer January 18, 2012
House Members’ Yasmin Mission Hit by Islamists Vento Saudale & Markus Junianto Sihaloho January 15, 2012
Waiting for Justice for Bogor, Bekasi Churches Camelia Pasandaran January 12, 2012
Police Fail to Act Against FPI After Attack on Ministry Ronna Nirmala January 14, 2012
Indonesia Police Target Girls for Wearing Shorts Jakarta Globe January 12, 2012
Tangerang Police Criticized for Targeting Women Instead of Perpetrators Keyko Ranti Ramadhani January 13, 2012
Government Threatens to Freeze Hard-Line Islamic Groups After Ministry Attacked Camelia Pasandaran January 12, 2012
"Few members of the group, often condemned as a group of thugs, ever face charges for their often violent stand-over tactics. The few that have only receive light sentences."
etc:

Improving intelligence, police, and justice services can only ever be a short term bandaid, feel good solution. The assistance directly to an organisation whose dogma is completely counter to Democratic principles will, has achieved what, not only now but historically? Historically to what purpose will these more efficient services be utilized given the State is being progressively subverted to the dictates of a Religion of Certainty as it has in Other countries. Do I need to name them?

To claim this strategy has 'worked' solely on the basis there has been no large scale terrorist attack  in Indonesia blatantly
 ignores the fact so called low level intimidation and violent attacks against Other - even deaths as detailed by the 2011 UN Human Rights report are clearly shown to be on the increase.

The fact is Indonesian Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise, the reason being the same as the rise of Jewish fundamentalism in Israel, support from the State, and grotesquely in regards Islam in Indonesia in large part by the Labor Government, and what the interviewee fails to point out without the existence of the so called moderates there would be no extremists.

The challenge I set for this terrorism expert is where does the line between the moderate and the extremist start and finish? Is the Foundation Text upon which both base their ethics and therefore subsequent actions against or for Other different? Does an extremist actually see themselves as extreme?

This bullshit saying Terror is a policing matter, simply a crime against the state, is the same as saying alcoholism is simply a sickness treat the outcome, clean up the vomit, lock them in a cell for the night and not recognize the cause alcohol.

We do recognize the cause of the Nazi, recognize the foundation text, recognize actions derived from this foundation text which clearly defines Other as less is a base cause of the ethics, ideas and motivation for its adherents and Society acts accordingly in setting up mechanisms inter-personal and judicial to clearly send a message - unacceptable - therefore preventing Nazi ideology taking hold.

Why not Islam - the construct and outcomes against Other are exactly the same with the subjugation of women to be tilth when and where men require - wake up you idiot interviewee.

To simply praise the grotesque enabler of generating the critical mass for greater  subjugation of women and terror against Other beggars belief.

So what you ameliorate Muslim terror at the high end but enable increased localize terror as the UN report indicates by supporting the increased acceptance of Islamic dogma across a Society and its imposition because you have supplied the finance to do so.

What the hell do you think those Indonesian soldiers where doing assisting with the recent refugee boats, or for that matter the Indonesian General supposedly involved in organizing the boats - the fact is we have Iranians, from a State which we are in essence at war with, crossing into our borders with the Iranian State refusing to take them back - your telling me none of these masked in this process are not an imminent threat to Australian security. Now there is talk of letting those who have had their refugee status rejected  be released into the community - this can only lead to and even worse security threat to Australia. What is the deterrence - there is now none.

Refugee drownings reveal mistreatment and military involvement Australian Broadcasting Corporation Broadcast: 17/01/2012 Reporter: Matt Brown mmm your x-military why would a military of a country -so called friend be involved?

Talking to the Taliban is exactly the same as talking to Hitler as it is helping financially  Islam to take over the Indonesian politic. You really think an Islamic state on Australians border is not a threat? I am already seeing signs of an attempt to social engineer Australia towards Islam. Australians should be made aware if there is an attempt to do so.

Reporter Dies in Pakistan, and Taliban Warn Others By DECLAN WALSH Published: January 18, 2012
Locals does not matter who they are as long as we can wash our hands - out black spot - not even ajax is going to get rid of this one. 'Funny' was it not the Taliban demanding 'Freedom of The Press' so they could have their terror attacks broadcast live - guess the Taliban definition of what 'Freedom' means in practice is very different than what? And if in this case what about every other? 

Your figures might look good but its the figures underneath the growing or diminishing influence of Islam which is the key indicator as well as the data as the UN points out increased oppression of Other which is in essence terror but not as headline catching but much more dangerous to any Democratic States interests- you want to know what is going to happen to Australia if you idiots who have this absurd policy notion you take out the thorn you will get a nice lick rather than be eaten alive - better start realizing the nature of the response depend solely on the nature of the beast - which is defined by what in human terms?

Its the foundation text idiot change it or change nothing the terror continues. This was never a criminal problem it is a dogma problem, a flawed foundation text which vilifies Other and qualifies and overwhelms any statement regards allowing Other to live peacefully.

I can understand the Labor Government paying you for such drivel to support their flawed policy but I will be very displeased if ASIO and any of our Intelligence services have done so as well.

Yes fundamental societal paradigms will have to be overturned to stop the terror - yes it will be hard and there will be a violent response - the foundation text dictates it - but the fact is there is no such thing as freedom of anything - otherwise we all would indeed be free of terror, high or low level.

In your study of Indonesian insurgency what of the communist dogma - Where is it? Why is it not prevalent? If the communist dogma was financed and supported by the State what would occur? Would the political impact against Other diminish or increase?

Yes the fear is justified but the silence as to the actual cause of the terror and what is required to stop it is not.

Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women NYT By ETHAN BRONNER and ISABEL KERSHNER Published: January 14, 2012

Think the above link is unrelated - Oh dear.

Religious Trauma Syndrome: An Overview of Dr. Marlene Winell’s Article in the British Association for Behavioural & Cognitive Psychotherapies December 3, 2011 By Mriana

The Simple Answer to Ending the Terror - Plato Knew it years Ago Why have we not Understood?

 

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2011

BROWN SHIRTS & BLACK SKIRTS - IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?

 

This is about reality, the direct correlation between the mere existence of foundation text vilifying Other and actual subjugation and violence against Other.

 

This is not simply academic, the existence of such text against Other diminishes the happiness and independence of the individual citizen and leads inexorably to genocide and particularly the increased subjugation of women.

 

Any so called ‘good’ person advocating such persons adhering to such foundation text which contains such vilification be allowed continue to do so without being held accountable, be it under the notions of Multiculturalism, cultural relativism, or under the absurd notion simply by having combined barbeques and  sporting fixtures every thing will be OK had better grow up and understand once these  cultures of Certainty have enough critical mass  there will be genocide.

 

There are absurd notions being put forward that Religion is not political and any negative societal act which can be clearly shown as being justified and promoted by religious foundation text should be treated simply as a civil matter without addressing the root cause of evil against Other the foundation text itself. Also the notion ‘words are only words, writings are only writings..’ which is clearly not the case as the results on the ground show = communication be it words or writing are not benign. As well because not every adherent is involved in violence or teaching their daughters they should be subject to Mans determination everything is OK – well it is not – by looking the other way we are condemning new citizens and even the rest of society to what – growing subjugation of women and further entrenchment of terror.

 

THE QUESTION TO ASK YOURSELF BASED ON FOUNDATION TEXT 'ARE THESE CLOTHS WORN BY RESPECTIVE ADHERENTS PUBLISING THEIR ADHERENCE TO EXACTLY THE SAME CONSTRUCT OF OTHER AND IF SO SHOULD NOT BOTH SETS OF ADHERENTS BE REGARDED AND TREATED IN THE SAME MANNER?

IF NOT WHY NOT? BE IT ONE REGARDED AS SECULAR (even though one could argue the notions regards Other are in the main directly sourced from religion) OR THE OTHER RELIGIOUS? This not bigotry this is fact foundation text kills.

 

The proof: Why psychologists, psychiatrists, childhood educationalist are so silent is a clear failure of courage.

There is justified fear the foundation text makes sure of that (Fears held for Christian convert The Age Barney Zwartz January 11, 2012) but there is no justification for the silence.

 

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Brown Shirts

Black Skirts

Hitler MEIN KAMPF

"But a Jew can never be rescued from his fixed notions."

 

''How futile it was to try to win over such people with argument, seeing that their very mouths distorted the truth, disowning the very words they had just used and adopting them again a few moments afterwards to serve their own ends in the argument!”

“In my opinion the most culpable .. those who did not think it worth while .. placing his seducer and corrupter against the wall.” etc

Hitler’s views as to the nature of Other:

moral pestilence, poison, despoilers, germ- carriers in poisoning human souls, shameful, fabricators, falsehood, cunning and despicable, derogatory, evil, cold-blooded, thick-skinned and shameless, alien race, evil spirits, absurdity of their teaching, obstinacy, tricks of logic, falsehoods, evil counselors, perfidy, etc

 

 

 

 

 

Genocidal Outcomes

Kristallnacht

“Jewish homes were ransacked, as were shops, towns and villages, as SA stormtroopers and civilians destroyed buildings with sledgehammers, leaving the streets covered in pieces of smashed windows—the origin of the name "Night of Broken Glass." Ninety-one Jews were killed, and 30,000 Jewish men—a quarter of all Jewish men in Germany—were taken to concentration camps, where they were tortured for months, with over 1,000 of them dying. Around 1,668 synagogues were ransacked, and 267 set on fire. In Vienna alone 95 synagogues or houses of prayer were destroyed.” etc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Denial - "Who us, we would never harm Other see in our Foundation text we say...."

Nazi: Goebbles
"The Jews are guilty! The Jews are guilty!" .. "We have nothing to contribute to it, it will come by itself, because it has to come."

 

 

 

Next sentence:
actions will be carried out "without pity without mercy" and the rest.
Auschwitz and the rest

 

 

And before, what is said, what is written?

 

What has happened?

 

Is not there even a hint of correlation? And if so?

 

How many Nazi considered themselves as Moderate? As the extremist and the Moderates ethics are derived from exactly the same text are they really?  At what point are they moderate or extremist? Would/Could one exist without the other?

Mohammed QURAN

002.006 As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

002.007 God hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

 

 

 

006.049 But those who reject our signs,- them shall punishment touch, for that they ceased not from transgressing.  etc

Mohammed’s views as to the nature of Other:

“rejecters of Faith!”= Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are the fools, in utter darkness, deceive themselves, their hearts is a disease, hangout with their evil ones, wander like blind ones, bartered Guidance for error, lost true direction, in utter darkness, make mischief therein and shed blood, transgressors, Be ye apes, despised and rejected., ignorant (fool)!, illiterates, do nothing but conjecture, seek gain in evil, God's curse is on them for their blasphemy, sold their souls, in insolent envy, wrong-doers, most greedy of life, idolaters, perverse, blasphemers, buyers of (magic), they conceal, evil-doers, in schism, wrong, wickedness,.. etc


Genocidal Outcomes (Noting the following are only a small list of examples derived from one State politic)

 

The 2002 Indonesian Island of Bali bombings killing 202 people etc

USCIRF Annual Report 2011 - The Commission's Watch List: Indonesia

“Indonesia's well-known tradition of religious tolerance and pluralism is being challenged by religious radicalism and extremist groups who have found converts in the country, leading to sectarian and societal violence, terrorism, and religious freedom violations. Indonesians rejected extremism at the polls, but it often goes unchallenged by many political, civic, and religious leaders. During the reporting period, nearly 40 places of worship belonging to religious minorities were closed, either forcibly by extremist groups or through the denial of building permits by government officials. Extremist groups also instigated violence against religious minorities, including an attack that led to the death of three Ahmadiyah adherents. New provincial bans on Ahmadiyah practice have been put in place in East and West Java and South Sumatra. Despite some strong public statements and arrests, the reactive approach taken by the Indonesian government has not been an effective deterrent to the violence perpetuated by non-state actors against religious minorities. Indonesian government officials also continue to employ the "blasphemy law" (Article 156(a)) to harass and detain individuals considered religiously "deviant" and continue to allow the enforcement of local laws restricting the rights of women and some non-Muslims, particularly in Aceh.” etc

The Denial - "Who us, we would never harm Other see in our Foundation text we say...."

 

Muslims: Mohhammed 
002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.

Next sentence:
"Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones .." and the rest.
Bali restaurants colored with the blood of Other and the rest.
‘God Does Not Exist’ Comment Ends Badly for Indonesia Man Camelia Pasandaran January 19, 2012

 

And before, what is said, what is written?

 

What has happened?

 

Is not there even a hint of correlation? And if so?

 

How many Nazi considered themselves as Moderate? As the extremist and the Moderates ethics are derived from exactly the same text are they really? At what point are they moderate or extremist? Would/Could one exist without the other?

 

 

We are well aware of Islamic atrocities occurring every day against Other - if humanity had a home appliance which caused the same bloody mayhem would not sanity prevail and it be banned from sale? Did not Humanity decide to purposefully crush Nazi's for the reason their dogma was an enabler of proven atrocities against Other? Why do we not apply the same rigor against religions whose foundation text is a clear enabler of proven atrocities against Other with subjugation of women thrown in?

Should we not therefore be rightly upset if we see either on the streets of a Democracy for exactly the same reasons? 

Three jailed for army base terror plot BY: CAMERON STEWART From: The Australian December 16, 2011  and the rest


Could Islamist rebels undermine change in Africa? Reuters OCT 28, 2011 04:35 EDT
"Creeping from the periphery.."

The trouble is elsewhere in the Foundation text spewed by these Religion of Certainty prophets of hatred against Other is in major part vilifying Other in the most diabolical manner and saying Others lot unassisted by adherents will come of its own occurred because indeed they are evil, diseased etc - Other is qualified - change the foundation text or change nothing the terror continues.

The fact is we know if Other are left alone 'grievous harm' is just as likely to be applied in equal measure to adherents and non-adherents - given the promise adherents are indeed the chosen ones and therefore favoured - this cannot be allowed. We know why it happens why do we allow it to continue?

BOKO HARAM SPOKESMAN THREATENS NIGERIAN CHRISTIANS AFP January 2, 2012, 10:17 pm

Religious Trauma Syndrome: An Overview of Dr. Marlene Winell’s Article in the British Association for Behavioural & Cognitive Psychotherapies December 3, 2011 By Mriana

The Simple Answer to Ending the Terror - Plato Knew it years Ago Why have we not Understood?

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Draft Constitution - Enabling the Independence of a Citizen be they Women, Men or Other

Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women NYT By ETHAN BRONNER and ISABEL KERSHNER Published: January 14, 2012

Think the above link ‘Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women’ is unrelated - Oh dear.

If I am just possibly right should not the full force of humanities  genius be brought to bare to enable new citizens to realise their full potential by articulating why and how foundation text which vilifies Other is not benign but clearly deleterious to the Human condition.

Once this is established which I am relatively certain it will, then proceed to determine what foundation text will be utilised, methods for educating new citizens, and  institute appropriate controls ensure citizens and  new immigrants adhere to ethics of not utilising foundation text against Other.